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同一张照片不管你在FUTURESHOP, WAL-MART, 以及所有的MOM AND POP店或所谓的PROFESSIONAL BLACKS冲洗, 从所用的设备来说基本没什么不同

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛I have worked for both Kodak and Noritsu. Kodak is famous for its film and chemicals, while Noritsu had no. 1 marketshare in photo finishing equipment (data in 2004). All Future Shops, Wal-Marts, Canadian Super Stores, Shopper's Drug Marts and most of the mom and pop stores use Noritsu equipment to process film and photos. Blacks uses Fujifilm's equipment. Both Noritsu and Fujifilm's equipments are advanced and good machines except the 2 brands may use different exposure engine and algorithm on their machines to process colors and desities. Whether or not you can get a great photo from a digital store not only depends on how advanced the machine is, but also the chemical control / status and most importantly the fellow, who operates that machine.

On the other hand a so called "good" picture is really something subjective: you like it more vivid while your mom may say it doesn't look real; you think blueish is better but your girlfriend prefers to add more yellow. Of course you can always make a good picture for most of people not for picky professionals. hehe..........

Now you know where to drop off your film or digital files?更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下拾英 / 摄影艺术 / 各位前辈,请教哪里洗数码照片效果好一点?昨天拿偶D70拍的片片(未经PS)在futureshop印,觉得色彩偏暗,不够鲜亮可是电脑上看就没什么问题。是因为偶的滤镜使用不当还是洗照片的店的问题?请推荐更好的去处,不胜感激!
    • Nikon的机子不经过狠狠的PS是没法用的,有句话叫做“nikon一出手,全国山河一片阴”。
      • 全球please全球please:)))
      • 这么惨啊!为什么偶买机器的时候没有人提醒偶啊?不是偶夸张,NIKON DSL出来的色彩还不如偶的索尼卡片机。。。要一张一张修了去印也太夸张了吧!还有啊,以前说用富士相纸印照片色彩比柯达要艳丽,在加拿大有这一说吗?那去black's洗会有所改善吗?谢谢。
        • DSLR无论N还是C出的片都是低饱和低对比,主要是为了保证最高的细节层次。如果想要鲜艳的JPEG直接出图,买个高档点的DC就行了。买DLSR本身就意味着需要更多的后期处理,更多的人甚至用RAW格式,完全由自己来定义色彩,白平衡来出图。
          当然D70的曲线平得过头了,这在D70s上得到了纠正。
          • 我的妈呀!艺术果然是源于生活还要高于生活的。本来就想拿它给娃拍拍照的,没想到对焦是不成问题了,又多出一堆其它问题,看来要不断加强学习加强练习。谢了先。
        • 富士还是要艳丽一些。其实nikon里也有例外的,比如D50的jpg就比较亮丽,它内置了PS调整算法。数码单反拍片应该用raw,经过PS后出片,这是比较严谨的做法。好比拍完了胶卷,自己暗房操作一样。如果只是拍jpg,SONY,KODAK,PANASONIC之类的口袋机反而更好。
          • 前辈,我可以用D70自带的那个软件修片子吗?我发现它可比PS省事。我还发现家里的几台电脑屏幕都有点色差,就是没有两台出来的效果一样,那如果在电脑上后期处理,究竟以谁为准?笔记本更精确还是台式机?
            • 工具无所谓,怎么容易怎么弄,只要效果好就可以。要在电脑上作调整,得先调整显示器的颜色,如果显示器颜色不准,怎么调都白搭。我用的是samsung的显示器,自带Natural Color软件可以进行色彩校正。
              • thanks a lot!
          • 富士的艳丽和算法没有关系,他的CCD就和别人的不一样。宽容度就是PS不出来的。富士最大的卖点就是无需PS(当然曝光色平衡要调好)直接出JPG。除了中幅的数码背,富士是能够得到的颜色最好的CCD。他的S2到S5系列分辨率就没有提高过,一直都是600w。
            • 说的是相纸彩扩设备,不是相机本身。
    • 如果后期不想做什么,可以在菜单中把色彩饱和度,锐度,对比度等指标调高,会有些帮助。用PS自动调节一下曲线,或做个ACTION,批处理一下也很快。有个叫光影魔术手的简单易用,英文网站: www.neo-imaging.net 中文主站: www.neoimaging.cn
      • 没错,魔术手很好用。强烈推荐。
        • 多谢帮助!
          • PS是“不得已”的。PS的目的就是以后不PS。PS的时候记住做了哪些PS,对应地以后拍照的时候做相应的调整。这是数码机最好的地方:有助于学习。重复多了拍摄之前你就能知道拍了以后是什么效果了。
            • PS是数码摄影很基础的一部分,如果不做PS,数码的宽容度,色彩这些硬指标根本就不是胶片的对手,而且认真的数码摄影师都会用RAW,如果谁说RAW不处理,直接出片,反正我不信.要么玩胶片,要玩数码,就得学会怎么PS照片.
              • 好好学习,天天向上。你日常PS的工具在相机里都可以设(可能除了曲线)。拍都拍了,细节丢掉了怎么PS回来。说道宽容度,尼康佳能的宽容度的确不佳。用佳能拍三张不同曝光的照片后期合成到成了推荐的做法。
                • 相机内的那些处理工序我是从来不用的,因为我只用RAW拍. 另外,关于细节,PS确实能在一定程度上找回失去的细节,或者说增加照片的宽容度,但对使用者的技术要求比较高,因为这些都是局部调整,涉及到很多方面的问题.
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                    • 如果那些custom的东西不用,你基本上超过一半的投资废了。和拿着一台小DC没有什么区别。RAW并不等于未经加工!真正未经加工的东西你根本看不懂。RAW也有白平衡,色系等等问题。
                      PS并不能帮你找回失去的细节,只是你在屏幕上看不到的细节。真正失去的细节你就压根不知道他们的存在!如云的细节或暗部细节。
                      • 我都把相机的所有custom设置都摆弄过一遍了,那些是帮我收到尽量好的片子,下一步就是ps了,当然你说的没错,ps不能把烂片子变成好作品,最多也就是把它变成能看。
      • Thx
    • Blacks
    • 同一张照片不管你在FUTURESHOP, WAL-MART, 以及所有的MOM AND POP店或所谓的PROFESSIONAL BLACKS冲洗, 从所用的设备来说基本没什么不同
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛I have worked for both Kodak and Noritsu. Kodak is famous for its film and chemicals, while Noritsu had no. 1 marketshare in photo finishing equipment (data in 2004). All Future Shops, Wal-Marts, Canadian Super Stores, Shopper's Drug Marts and most of the mom and pop stores use Noritsu equipment to process film and photos. Blacks uses Fujifilm's equipment. Both Noritsu and Fujifilm's equipments are advanced and good machines except the 2 brands may use different exposure engine and algorithm on their machines to process colors and desities. Whether or not you can get a great photo from a digital store not only depends on how advanced the machine is, but also the chemical control / status and most importantly the fellow, who operates that machine.

      On the other hand a so called "good" picture is really something subjective: you like it more vivid while your mom may say it doesn't look real; you think blueish is better but your girlfriend prefers to add more yellow. Of course you can always make a good picture for most of people not for picky professionals. hehe..........

      Now you know where to drop off your film or digital files?更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net