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You must get the CRA approval letter for non-resident tax. Here are my answers to your questions

kitty_cat(cheese cake)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛1. CRA will decide whether you are non-resident for tax based on many reasons. One of them is whether you have family tie in Canada.

2. Normally the date that your family left Canada is the date you became non-resident for tax. For your case, your wife left Canada in April 2007, so if you handed in your NR-37 and get approval from CRA about non-resident for tax, you will be noticed clearly in the CRA letter from WHICH date you are non-resident for tax. I would guess it is April 2007.

3. If you really want to save tax but do not want to cancel all bank accounts, credit cards or RRSP, etc. in canada, all you need to do is to change your address in these accounts to your USA address. So the government will take it into consideration and might still give you approval of non-resident for tax.

4. Once you change to non-resident for tax, you will not be able to claim Canada tax online, but have to do it in paper.

5. Normally the CRA will give you an answer of your and your wife's NR-37 applications within 4 weeks.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / 我是07年1月来美工作，我爱人孩子07年4月来美，按理说我从4月份以后应是non-resident。我爱人还有canada bank account, etc, 保税时我可以按non-resident 而我爱人按factual resident? 多谢指点！！！ 真是很烦。 -orionzhang(猎户座); 2008-4-20 (#4405217@0)
    • 你准备向加拿大报１－４月美国收入吗？ -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-20 (#4405255@0)
      • 是啊 -orionzhang(猎户座); 2008-4-20 (#4405258@0)
        • 我想1-4月我按factual resident 保税 -orionzhang(猎户座); 2008-4-20 {293} (#4405276@0)
          5月以后我按non-resident. 我爱人一直按resident or factual resident, 因为去年她收了生孩子EI, UCCB, CCTB等。我可以这样吗？

          还是夫妻俩必须有同样的resident status for tax purpose?
          如果我爱人从5月起也按non-resident (no income in US), 我们是否要re-pay 那部分的EI, UCCB 和CCTB？

          多谢了！！！
          • 据我所知，如果你太太是risident,你也必须按resident报。 -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-20 (#4405342@0)
        • 我２００７年３月初来美，太太和小孩４月底来。之前我在加拿大有收入，那我是不是除了向加拿大报１－２月的收入，也要报３－４月在美国的收入？谢谢。 -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-20 (#4405280@0)
          • Yes. Both of your are departing resident which is resident with a departure date. You don't report US income after April. -kwirky(kwirky); 2008-4-20 (#4405668@0)
            • 我爱人去年一直在美国工作,我是去年9月过来的,我爱人是不是还是要按deemed resisdent报加拿大的税呀,那样是不是只要报1-8月在美国的收入? -davfox(davfox); 2008-4-21 (#4405727@0)
            • 谢谢kwirky。这么说我一定要报３－４月的美国收入？谢谢！ -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-21 (#4405731@0)
              • yes -kwirky(kwirky); 2008-4-21 (#4405865@0)
                • Thanks. I only have w-2 for the whole year. So it is not appropriate to provide the w-2 to CRA. Do I need to provide paystubs of March and April to the CRA? -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-21 (#4406112@0)
                • Another question is how to figure out the FINAL tax for just these two months(3-4)??? Big headache! -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-21 (#4406146@0)
            • 再问一句，return要寄到什么地方？ -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-21 (#4405736@0)
              • 你在境外, 加税局还给你寄税表? -kattycat(katty); 2008-4-21 (#4406512@0)
                • yes, they did. -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-21 (#4406694@0)
            • 我收到的package要我寄到Shawinigan,QC。 -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-21 (#4405743@0)
              • correct -kwirky(kwirky); 2008-4-21 (#4405867@0)
              • 所有离加的税表都寄这个地方吗? 你离开前在哪个省?不是说按离开前在哪个省就报那里的邮寄地址吗? -peace2004(happyface); 2008-4-21 (#4406359@0)
                • ontario -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-21 (#4406757@0)
              • 是不是你家里人离境的时候通知税局了, 所以给你直接寄到境外? -peace2004(happyface); 2008-4-22 (#4408046@0)
    • 我觉得你太太也可以按non-resident来报。 -seattlesky(SeattleSky); 2008-4-20 (#4405309@0)
      • 问题是如果我爱人从5月起也按non-resident (no income in US), 我们是否要re-pay 那部分的EI, UCCB 和CCTB？ 还有如果太太是risident,我也必须按resident报, 我猜也是这样, 有谁可以confirm这个? 多谢了各位 -orionzhang(猎户座); 2008-4-21 (#4406110@0)
        • 关键是你们去年5月离开以后, 通知加税局没有? 是否还一直领EI, UCCB 和CCTB这些补助? -peace2004(happyface); 2008-4-21 (#4406330@0)
          • any one can confirm that if my wife is resident for the entire year, I have to file tax as resident? Thank you. -orionzhang(猎户座); 2008-4-21 (#4407050@0)
    • You must get the CRA approval letter for non-resident tax. Here are my answers to your questions -kitty_cat(cheese cake); 2008-4-21 {1035} (#4406387@0)
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛1. CRA will decide whether you are non-resident for tax based on many reasons. One of them is whether you have family tie in Canada.

      2. Normally the date that your family left Canada is the date you became non-resident for tax. For your case, your wife left Canada in April 2007, so if you handed in your NR-37 and get approval from CRA about non-resident for tax, you will be noticed clearly in the CRA letter from WHICH date you are non-resident for tax. I would guess it is April 2007.

      3. If you really want to save tax but do not want to cancel all bank accounts, credit cards or RRSP, etc. in canada, all you need to do is to change your address in these accounts to your USA address. So the government will take it into consideration and might still give you approval of non-resident for tax.

      4. Once you change to non-resident for tax, you will not be able to claim Canada tax online, but have to do it in paper.

      5. Normally the CRA will give you an answer of your and your wife's NR-37 applications within 4 weeks.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 好像不是必须要税局裁决, 你才是非税务居民, 只有你情况不明确时, 需要填这个NR-73表裁定. -peace2004(happyface); 2008-4-21 (#4406525@0)
        • My company in-house lawyer and my US account both told me that to get Canada non-resident for tax officially I needed the approval letter from CRA, because CRA is the authority. Otherwise if there is anything wrong in the future, no one can help you. -kitty_cat(cheese cake); 2008-4-21 (#4406599@0)
          • If they deny your non-resident status, no one can't help you either. It is better not to file NR-73 until they ask for it, if you think you are well qualified. -kwirky(kwirky); 2008-4-21 (#4406747@0)
            • you can follow the denial letter to change your conditions until CRA approves you. BUT once the CRA finds something wrong and follows you, you will be in trouble forever and pay back a lot of tax money. Unless you will never go back to Canada. -kitty_cat(cheese cake); 2008-4-21 (#4406764@0)
              • I faxed the NR-73 form more than 6 weeks ago, I have not heard from them, yet. If they decided me and my wife to be non-resident from May, can I still file tax as resident for 2007? -orionzhang(猎户座); 2008-4-21 (#4407052@0)
                • the problem is, after May, she still received maternity EI and CCTB and UCCB. If she is determined to be non-resident, will we have to reply these benefits? Thanks. -orionzhang(猎户座); 2008-4-21 (#4407054@0)
                  • 如果是这种情况, 你好像要把钱退回去. -peace2004(happyface); 2008-4-22 (#4407896@0)
                    • Yeah, I guess so too. anyway I will file as resident for the whole year, and for 2008, we will be 100% non-resident. so no more trouble. -orionzhang(猎户座); 2008-4-22 (#4408361@0)
    • If you and your wife passed the 183 days test, both of you can be us residents and file jointly in usa. You and your wife were treated as non residents and thus us residents after departing date without taxhome in canada. -xiaoxiuliang(xiaoxiu); 2008-4-22 {544} (#4409702@0)
      When you claim as resident of a country, you have to report your world-wide income for that period. That means your wife has to report maternity EI to both usa and canada. However, you can claim foreign tax credit if there is any after you minus total tax paid by all refund from canada for your wife. I can confirm that you do not need to repay maternity EI, but have to report to canada when you leave and your UCCB and CCTB stop after your child were outside of canda and thus you have to return UCCB and CCTB the part you are not qualified.

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