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仔细看了, 原来Redhouse本人并没有在交140后延过TN.

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛为什么说可以这样做? 他是7月移民局大放水的获益者, 同时递上了140和485, 不必再续TN, 可以没事偷着乐了. 可是后来人能有同样的运气么? 移民局这么个抽疯法多年来也就一次. 象六四绿卡一样, 可遇不可求.
即便Redhouse这种幸运的情况, 应该也不是没有担心. 不知道他的140批了没有. 如果万一不批, 怎么办? 还有485, 好几个律师都说, 如果485被拒, 又没有H1-B, 除非上诉, 否则只能离境, 以前的功夫全部白费. 至于被拒的可能性, 每人情况不同, 没法轻易下结论, 更不能根据总的拒签率推算某个具体案例的可能性.
我觉得躲避不开的最大问题在于: 延TN, 虽然有境外和境内两种方式,可是递了140后, 走哪种都将面临同一个问题: 你交了移民申请没有. 如果在境外面签, 绝大多数移民官会当面提这个问题(我觉得很奇怪, 其实他们随时可查到这个信息, 为什么还要问, 难道是没话找话?); 境内递表129的话, 我注意到该表第四部分第七个问题是: “Have you ever filed an immigrant petition for any person in this petition? No Yes - explain on separate paper “ 该怎么回答呢? 答NO, 就撒了谎, 谁敢跟移民局隐瞒? 移民局不会连个数据库也没有吧? 答YES, 就违反了TN不能有移民倾向的规定. 总之, 把自己逼到悬崖边上了.
不过我也认为肯定有人递了I-140后还是获得过TN的批准. 移民官数量那么多, 他们的处理标准和责任心总有差距, 就会有不同的处理结果. 但是谁能知道幸运儿的比例有多大, 获得批准的申请人的出生地是否是中国.
这个问题真头疼. 不知道一旦TN被拒, 以后还能申请不?更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / 问个问题: TN->GreenCard 的可能性有多少(中国出生)? H1B是必经之路吗?
    • TN is only one year, there is no chance that you can get GC in one year
      • 结婚如何?
    • I am the one applying GC on TN
      2 steps to apply GC:
      1: labor certificate
      2: I-140
      3: I-485

      Before step 3, you can continue to renew your TN, without any problem.
      Once you submit I-485, your TN can't be renewed any more, your TN must be valid untile you receive EAD to work in US; if you want re-entry US, AP(advanced parole is required) .
      • you are saying... if the step 3 needs less than one year (or three years with assuming TN 3 years passes the law later). TN->GC is poosible. 最后一句没大懂.你是说一旦递交I-485,人就不能离境了吗?
        • once you submit i-485, you can't re-entry(no body care when you leave, they catch you when you enter) under TN. but you will receive AP document, you can use AP to re-entry
      • This is not true, even in spouse case: When I file I-140 in H1B status, it will also impact my wife's TN renew because UICIS has family info on I-140. She may only change to H1B, or H4 or EAD after.
        • the problem is, it would take more than 1 year to step3 (I485) from step2(I140). once they find out u submitted I140 -> immigration intention -> refuse to renew ur TN -> all over.
          • if TN is changed to 3 year, that will be no problem, right?
            • 现在EB2是01JUN06,可能行. 现在好像排期变化很大,两个月前还是04年.
        • Apply GC on TN is very complex, only professional lawyer can handle it safely. There is no reason you need get GC in one year, as far as you have valid work authority. So you will receive EAD in 90 days once file i-485, once you have EAD,
          it doesn't matter if your TN is expired. Then your status is AOS pending, instead of TN
      • which step are you in? Thx
        • step2 & step3, lawyer filled i-140 & i-485 together. I am on EAD now
          • 您老是EB1.
            • No
              • 那就是赶上去年七月的好时光
    • redhouse说得对. 一定要NAFTA律师. 前两步没有问题. 关键是第三步怎么走. 对于普通EB2&3, 有朋友咨询过公司律师, 律师说可以通过申请境外处理绕过, 如果能住在加拿大的边境城市最理想, 否则的话, 每年一定要到边境办TN, 而非境内邮寄, 因为后者要填表.
      • If u go to the border for renewing TN, how high is the chance that they find out u submitted I-140? any one knows?
        • renew by mai
      • 现在TN是3年有效,但据说就是第三步,从中国出身的人排队在三年内也出不来。
        • 现在EB2是两年。EB3应该很少人,一般人找出5年相关工作经验还是没什么大问题的。EB3至少5年。
        • 现在TN 已经改三年了吗?
          • no
      • 不管是邮寄还是边境,以前都有听说过被拒的. 以前有个老外的论坛,专门讨论这种事情,现在不搞了.反正有risk。EB1值得做,因为绝大多数一年内就出来了。EB2和EB3就算了,弄不好工作都没了。还是老老实实H1->GC的路。或者等TN3年。
        • 我上面说的境外处理, 是485境外处理, 不是TN申请
        • [以前有个老外的论坛,专门讨论这种事情].URL please? Thx
          • -->
            • Take a look and do not find any post about whose TN was denied after I-140. Did you see it? Thx
        • [以前都有听说过被拒的]. Could you list the url about denial please? thx
    • 仔细看了, 原来Redhouse本人并没有在交140后延过TN.
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛为什么说可以这样做? 他是7月移民局大放水的获益者, 同时递上了140和485, 不必再续TN, 可以没事偷着乐了. 可是后来人能有同样的运气么? 移民局这么个抽疯法多年来也就一次. 象六四绿卡一样, 可遇不可求.
      即便Redhouse这种幸运的情况, 应该也不是没有担心. 不知道他的140批了没有. 如果万一不批, 怎么办? 还有485, 好几个律师都说, 如果485被拒, 又没有H1-B, 除非上诉, 否则只能离境, 以前的功夫全部白费. 至于被拒的可能性, 每人情况不同, 没法轻易下结论, 更不能根据总的拒签率推算某个具体案例的可能性.
      我觉得躲避不开的最大问题在于: 延TN, 虽然有境外和境内两种方式,可是递了140后, 走哪种都将面临同一个问题: 你交了移民申请没有. 如果在境外面签, 绝大多数移民官会当面提这个问题(我觉得很奇怪, 其实他们随时可查到这个信息, 为什么还要问, 难道是没话找话?); 境内递表129的话, 我注意到该表第四部分第七个问题是: “Have you ever filed an immigrant petition for any person in this petition? No Yes - explain on separate paper “ 该怎么回答呢? 答NO, 就撒了谎, 谁敢跟移民局隐瞒? 移民局不会连个数据库也没有吧? 答YES, 就违反了TN不能有移民倾向的规定. 总之, 把自己逼到悬崖边上了.
      不过我也认为肯定有人递了I-140后还是获得过TN的批准. 移民官数量那么多, 他们的处理标准和责任心总有差距, 就会有不同的处理结果. 但是谁能知道幸运儿的比例有多大, 获得批准的申请人的出生地是否是中国.
      这个问题真头疼. 不知道一旦TN被拒, 以后还能申请不?更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • We all heard both accepted and denied. However, none ever talked to the attorney or applicant who did so on either way( either accepted or denied).
        Can any one post such information please? Thx

        We called a couple of attorneys who "said" OK on line. However they did not answer
        the phone at all.
      • 我上面说的境外处理, 是485境外处理, 不是TN申请. 边境申请TN, 我自己没有被问到过这个问题, 不知道各位朋友有没有被问过? 听朋友的律师将, 这个问题不应该问的.
    • This question is equivalent to:[Who did renew TN visa successfully after I140.]
      • [ZT]It is up to the officer to accept you or deny you. Either way is correct.
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Dear Mr. Reich:

        This refers to your letter of March 7, in which you state that a Canadian citizen was refused admission as a TN nonimmigrant under the North American Free Trade Agreement (the NAFTA) because he is the beneficiary of an approved I-140, Immigrant Petition for Alien Worker, and, therefore, could not establish that his entry was without the intent to establish permanent residence in the United States. You submit that a TN nonimmigrant may be admitted to the United States to complete a temporary employment engagement even though he or she is the beneficiary of an approved I-140 petition.

        ***

        The determination as to whether or not an alien is eligible for admission or extension of stay as a TN professional must be made by the immigration officer at the time the alien applies for admission or extension of stay. Each application must be judged on its own merits.

        ***

        At the present time, there is no specified upper limit on the number of years a citizen of Canada or a citizen of Mexico may remain in the United States in TN classification...However, the presumption of immigrant intent under section 214(b) of the Act is applicable to NAFTA professionals under section 214(e) of the Act (unlike that for H and L nonimmigrants...). Accordingly, applicants for admission, extension, or readmission as NAFTA professionals will be subject to a determination by the Service of the applicability of section 214(b) of the Act to the applicant.

        The fact that an alien is the beneficiary of an approved I-140 petition may not be, in and of itself, a reason to deny an application for admission, readmission, or extension of stay if the alien’s intent is to remain in the United States temporarily. Nevertheless, because the Service must evaluate each application on a case-by-case basis with regard to the alien’s intent, this factor may be taken into consideration along with other relevant factors every time that a TN nonimmigrant applies for admission, readmission or a new extension of stay. Therefore, while it is our opinion that under the conditions as described in your letter, a TN nonimmigrant may apply for readmission in the TN classification, if the inspecting officer determines that the individual has abandoned his or her temporary intent, that individual’s application for admission as a TN nonimmigrant may be refused.

        ***

        Yvonne M. LaFleur, Chief

        Business and Trade Services Branch

        Benefits

        ***更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • [ZT]Never clearly stated if TN renewal should be accepted or denied
        "After considerable discussion between the Nebraska Service Center and AILA's NSC Liaison Committee, the NSC now indicates that the filing of an immigrant petition is simply one factor to consider in the adjudication of a TN extension, and should not automatically result in a denial. The NSC, which has exclusive jurisdiction over TN applications made on Form I-129, had previously indicated that NSC adjudicators were being told to deny TN applications if an I-140 immigrant petition has been filed on the individual's behalf. The basis of the denial had been that the individual no longer has a nonimmigrant intent."