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您真的以为TTC的工资和福利是工会挣取来的吗?

manzhen(manzhen)

非也,加拿大是个还算公平的社会,TTC员工的收入有它的合理性,存在就是合理的,TTC的司机不是在单纯地开车,而是主要在提供所谓的"CUSTOMER SERVICE",这是一种文邹邹的叫法,说直白了,就是要忍受乘客的欺负,污辱,甚至欧打,每天都有司机被侵犯,TTC的待遇里很大部分实际上就是这种赔偿,这个工作,在西方主流人们的眼里就值这个钱,他们不乘公车,但他们懂,明白,而那些抱怨的人,相当大一部分人是出于嫉妒.

如果真的TTC的工资待遇严重不合理,早就会改变了,用不到等到现在,工会唯一的手段是罢工,而政府是可提前取缔罢工的,就罢不成了,工会的力量是有限的,所以说,TTC的待遇是整个主流社会所认可的.

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枫下茶话 / 社会 / 您真的以为TTC的工资和福利是工会挣取来的吗? -manzhen(manzhen); 2010-2-9 {546} (#5872302@0)
非也,加拿大是个还算公平的社会,TTC员工的收入有它的合理性,存在就是合理的,TTC的司机不是在单纯地开车,而是主要在提供所谓的"CUSTOMER SERVICE",这是一种文邹邹的叫法,说直白了,就是要忍受乘客的欺负,污辱,甚至欧打,每天都有司机被侵犯,TTC的待遇里很大部分实际上就是这种赔偿,这个工作,在西方主流人们的眼里就值这个钱,他们不乘公车,但他们懂,明白,而那些抱怨的人,相当大一部分人是出于嫉妒.

如果真的TTC的工资待遇严重不合理,早就会改变了,用不到等到现在,工会唯一的手段是罢工,而政府是可提前取缔罢工的,就罢不成了,工会的力量是有限的,所以说,TTC的待遇是整个主流社会所认可的.

你层次太低了，不和你玩了 -weiwei018(hai); 2010-2-9 (#5872314@0)
TTC招司机的时候，有没有先过三百杀威棒，检验一下皮糙肉厚程度？ -oldyou(玩得太久，爱弟报废。); 2010-2-9 (#5872324@0)

For sure，看楼主就知道了 -felix0000(人造太阳); 2010-2-9 (#5872329@0)
当然没有啦，因为不需要。不过据说是要通过砂轮磨脸的考试 -bbbb(鞭炮薄饼--灌水区里好); 2010-2-9 (#5873501@0)

在看看别的运输公司,比如GO,密西沙加公车公司,他们的有些待遇甚至还高于TTC,为什么会这样?GO开火车的时薪38. -manzhen(manzhen); 2010-2-9 {61} (#5872340@0)
那里的选民是白痴吗?当然不是,因为他们认为这个工作就值这么个钱!

I guess I must be the 白痴 who doesn't understand why you have such high pay and good benefits. In the coming election, I would vote for any candidate who dare to cahllenge TTC union and cut their compensation. -hkchan(0); 2010-2-9 (#5872356@0)

I'M SURE YOU WILL BE AT SURE HOME ON THAT DAY -bbbb(鞭炮薄饼--灌水区里好); 2010-2-9 (#5873495@0)

你错了。本来还同情你，现在觉得你太过分了。罢工确实能够被强行中止，但代价是进行协调，协调结果往往是对双方要求取个中间值。所以，对于罢工者来说，要求多么离谱都没有风险，而越离谱越有利。 -rollor(Rollor); 2010-2-9 (#5872341@0)
我被TTC司机刁难过好几次，甚至是我刚来加拿大第一次坐TTC。如果“工会的力量是有限的”，你们这么多年来一直有TTC市长做后台，你还能说“力量是有限的”吗？“TTC的待遇是整个主流社会所认可的”，真是大言不惭！ -72350(72350); 2010-2-9 (#5872346@0)
真逗，原来 TTC属于类似于国内的哭吧，女仆吧之类的特种经营。 -kingsw(Steven); 2010-2-9 (#5872366@0)

严重落伍了，什么是哭吧？从前只听过花钱请人哭丧。。。 -oldyou(玩得太久，爱弟报废。); 2010-2-9 (#5872374@0)

哪一天，如果你的心情不好，想哭，来我这里付了钱就可以放声大哭。给你折扣 -kingsw(Steven); 2010-2-9 (#5872380@0)

工会是个双刃刀，工会最受惠的是领导小圈子；目前加拿大的趋势，工会越来越没有市场和支持度，等你们年老色衰了，也没什么一技之长了，TTC也作到头了，一纸新法解散或者下岗工会，到时候你们这些底层会员怎么办？你好好研究一些制造业的例子就清醒了。 -fxid(闲聊灌水); 2010-2-9 (#5872372@0)

Fully support to come out and vote. If you do not care about your own right, nobody will care about you right either. -felix0000(人造太阳); 2010-2-9 (#5872413@0)

People live in Toronto is the cause of such problem, i.e. why TTC drivers have such good package and their union is so powerful. Because most Toronto residents did NOT come out to vote. -hkchan(0); 2010-2-9 {268} (#5872375@0)
Most people who came up to vote are union members and their family; so our City councillor did what their voters asked them to do. If you do come up and vote, you gave up your right!

If you want better services from TTC and pay lower fare, come to vote in October!

You are naive. democracy is a big cheat and is the cause of such problems. Chinese government could solve this problem in a week. Anyway, what you said is the only thing we can do for now. -bzdsb(hiahia); 2010-2-9 (#5872401@0)

I may be simle & naive, you are not the first one who said it. But can we at least try for 1 time and see what the result would be. As you said this is the only thing we can do. -hkchan(0); 2010-2-9 (#5872427@0)

Nonsenses -l2u(Hi); 2010-2-9 {406} (#5872390@0)
#1, "他们不乘公车,但他们懂", they are not your customers, how do they know? Is it just because they are your boss? Yes, most TTC riders are not part of the "主流人们", but they are your customers, who should you listen to?

#2, "TTC的待遇是整个主流社会所认可的.", gangs exist for hundreds years, there must be a reason, but do you think it is also "是整个主流社会所认可的" just because it exists?
欺负,污辱,甚至欧打. 人间地狱... -firetrain(火车头); 2010-2-9 (#5872400@0)
明白了，TTC原来是加拿大的“公仆”，相当于共产党在中国的角色。同志们起立，向鞠躬尽瘁的公仆们致敬。 -softkiller(很坏很和谐); 2010-2-9 (#5872404@0)

泡泡哥讲的话，三块钱，可以上下很多趟！ -oldyou(玩得太久，爱弟报废。); 2010-2-9 (#5872439@0)
LOL -72350(72350); 2010-2-9 (#5872440@0)

我不知道你是原先就这么想还是被周围司机影响的，我也认为Union确实是个问题。别的不说，现在这种时候，Union从上到下到下都很management唱反调，这对解决和customer之间的关系有帮助吗？正因为这种矛盾越来越大，frontline遇到的问题更多。 -babyblue(babyblue); 2010-2-9 (#5872603@0)
看了ttc工会头的电视表演，就四个字------无耻+ 流氓。 -thunderstorm(回归自然); 2010-2-9 (#5873515@0)

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