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@BC

this is my second reply

What is wrong to work hard and study hard?

What is wrong to get better life by honest way ?

What is wrong to make my dream become true?

What is wrong with some people , like Stephanie Findlay and Nicholas Köhler who always think most of un-white-skin should only run restaurant or cleaner house instead of having a desk in the campus ?

If there are more white students in the campus,

are Stephanie Findlay and Nicholas Köhler going to write another article titled “Too White?”

Shame on you, Macleans!

No more excuse! Apology NOW!!!!"
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  • 枫下茶话 / 社会 / 这是Macleans给我的回信。很可能写投诉信的朋友都收到了吧?
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Re: I need your explanation on "Too Asian?"‏

    Thank you for writing to us with your concern. We would like to call your attention to certain aspects of the story.

    The headline of our article, which was a question, not a declaration, is borrowed from the name of a 2006 panel hosted by the National Association for College Admission Counseling in the U.S.

    In the U.S., as our article says, Ivy League universities have “limited Asian applicants and [kept] the number of white students artificially high.” There is evidence of a double standard being applied to Asian applicants, with one study finding that “they needed an extra 140 points on their SAT scores to be on equal footing with white applicants.”

    We do not condone this; the article is clear on this point. We did, however, think it was important to investigate whether the same thing was going on at Canadian campuses.

    Our article goes on to state: “Although university administrators here [in Canada] are loath to discuss the issue, students talk about it all the time.” We then quote students, Asian and non-Asian, from various parts of Canada, about these issues.

    The point of the article is not in any way to challenge the meritocracy of university admissions. On the contrary, hard work should be and is rewarded on Canadian campuses. The article explicitly states: “It’s unfair to change the meritocratic entry system, so all universities can do—all they should do—is encourage groups to mingle … Newer, fresher ways are needed to help pry the ethnic ghettos open so everyone hangs out together.” That applies to “all-white” social groups as well.

    We thank you again for writing. We hope this article will encourage intelligent, open discussion of these issues. Your letter has been forwarded to the authors of the article and the editors, who appreciate the feedback.

    Take care,
    xxx更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 这是我的原文,也管不得有没有语法错误了,能明白就行。
      Dear Sir or Madam,

      I need your explanation on the biased opinion and hidden propaganda in the recent article "Too Asian" about our Chinese Parents push our kids to be excel in education and profession.

      As a mother of a little boy, I want my son to be good at school work and happy with what he learns. I also very care about his communication and social skills. I love to guide my son, enlighten him to know earlier what he wants and therefore he will pursue it happily.

      I believe all parents in the world want their kids to be good, if possible, in both social skills and academic achievement. Parents' guidance to a kid is very important. I don't see what's wrong with that.

      Everyone has equal right to fair competition. Parents' guidance is also neccessary. If you think these are wrong then you are not a good parent and you fail to recognize basic human right.

      Thank you,
    • 收到了. 和你的一模一样。我的朋友也收到了. 可恶的 Mcleans ,没有一点道歉的苗头。
      • 他们领导是谁?
      • 收到了一样的信。YAU 也回了,应该也是一样的
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛HI,XXX
        Please find attached our response letter to Toronto Star for your reference. You may also read yesterday’s Ming Pao (see links) about my position. I hope both will clarify my standpoint as well as that of Across U-hub which I have supported since its establishment in the early 2000s. Our mission is to support the youth and their parents in our East Asian community and to help our younger generations to achieve their real success with an open-minded and holistic approach. If you are interested in our work, you may visit our Across U-hub website.



        BTW, I really feel hurt by your accusation. A couple of parents, who did send me an angry email or questioned me, have now apologized, and one of the parents even asked me to give other parents who wrote me her email address, and she is more than willing to clarify the issue with parents. Her name is Kalen Liang, and her email is kalenliang@gmail.com.



        Maria



        Ming Pao (2010-11-10)

        平權會譴責「亞裔佔大學」論
        指《麥克琳》文章種族定型 《星報》斷章取義 (2010-11-10)

        斥煽情文章惹亞裔與白人對敵誤解


        http://www.mingpaotor.com/htm/News/20101111/taa1.htm


        多倫多公校教局研究部統籌邱綺雯﹕將截然不同題目混為一談 (2010-11-10)
        更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • 我并不满意YAU女士的解释, 她的组织和会议没有任何问题, 要解释的是她自己的发言.先不模糊焦点了.
        • 附件贴的是青花瓷的那封信
    • 建议大家继续发. MCLEAN'S短时间内收到大量来自不同IP的EMAIL,不相信他们能睡得安稳.
      • 对! 继续发!
        • Support!
      • 准备发第二封,内容参照FYI. My first letter to Macleans, will send them now... by alaabracadabra (AlaAbracadabra) at 2010.11.12 12:36 (#6361792@0) <本文发表于: 相约加拿大:枫下论坛 www.rolia.net/forum >
      • this is my second reply
        What is wrong to work hard and study hard?

        What is wrong to get better life by honest way ?

        What is wrong to make my dream become true?

        What is wrong with some people , like Stephanie Findlay and Nicholas Köhler who always think most of un-white-skin should only run restaurant or cleaner house instead of having a desk in the campus ?

        If there are more white students in the campus,

        are Stephanie Findlay and Nicholas Köhler going to write another article titled “Too White?”

        Shame on you, Macleans!

        No more excuse! Apology NOW!!!!"
      • 多一篇范文.
      • This is my letter to them.
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Dear Sir or Madam,

        I just read the recent article "Too Asian". I feel very upset about what you indicated in the article.

        I am a mother, deep down I would not only like my kids to be good at education, but also I care about their other skills. I believe all parents in the world want their kids to be good, if possible, in both social skills and academic achievement. We all know that parents' guidance to young kids is very important. Your articles criticize that we force our kids to do what they don't like? What's the evidence? How can we? If so, they'll give up soon after they have their own opinions. Have you ever do the statistics about what kinds of students got failure most? Is it Asian student? If so, you shouldn't worry about the so-called 'culture balance'.

        We came from Asia, but we are Canadians now. We love Canada for its fairness and peace. We also contribute to the society at least the same as others if not more. Since we want our kids to be a contributor, we don't want them to spend too much time on drinking, to drug on the streets, and to be lazy and become the burden of this society. What's wrong with that??

        As Canadian major media, you didn't advocate good values (hard-working and fair competition), but you criticize these values. What do you want to lead our young generation? Laziness? Unfairness? You raise 'culture balance' and stir the racism. Feel shame on you!!!

        You must apologize in public!! Otherwise you'll lose all Asian parents' support!!更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 也收到了, Mcleans totally 一流氓。继续发!
    • 不能光给ML发,还有其他大媒体。
      • Please post 其他大媒体 contact email address. Thank you!
      • 其实我觉得我们这里已经有很多很有逻辑的质疑信,完全可以稍加组织,同时向多家新闻媒体发稿。伞兵作战恐怕见效很慢。
    • 好主意,加上其他大媒体,让其他大媒体也知道我们要解释和道歉. 继续发!
    • 人家很可能是有律师出场的,我们这些散兵未必能对付得了。
      • lol. 管他有没有用,不出点力真是对不起我们自己在北美Settle down前付出的艰辛..
        • +1. 还要对得起我们带来的孩子
        • I mean we need an orginization to help us and I am happy to see CCNC stand up to face it. We should give them our support.
    • Macleans的回信 non-sense! 1. All Ivy colleges are private, They can do sometjng diffrently, but even Ivy collegs do not dare to say they " limited asian students" publicly . 2. Canadian universities are public. In US, public schools like
      Macleans的回信 non-sense! 1. All Ivy colleges are private, They can do sometjng diffrently, but even Ivy collegs do not dare to say they " limited asian students" publicly . 2. Canadian universities are public. In US, public schools like UCLA 40% asian, Uc Berkely 43% asian, UC San Diegi 50% asian, UC Irvine 53% asian, Nobody dare to say them Too Asian, That's racialism. Write an reply to Maclen
    • Got same reply. Will keep fighting.
    • 难道没有人给toronto star写吗?我们昨晚写了,一直没有收到任何回复。完全支持大家继续写,他们的态度实在太狡猾!可恶!!!
      • I sent 2 emails last night and no answer.
        • TNND!
    • 这事要往大里闹,最好组织上街游行
      • 专业人士协会干啥了,这末大事,也不出来表个态
    • Canada is not USA. It's defintely illegal to set up US-style quota system here.
      • yeah, so true!
      • 如果我们现在对这样的文章没有反对的声音,在不远的将来,在加拿大也将会是合法的了。
    • Macleans根本没有道歉的意识。满篇都是在替自己辩护兼嘲笑我们。 完全是欺负我们! 强烈要求Macleans郑重道歉!强烈要求文章作者被开除!
    • Dudes, you are barking at the wrong tree! (#6363001@0)