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这个记者很会反话正说,你被迷惑了。比如他说,“这是个机会,大学应该建立文化平衡,应该拿亚裔最多的大学开刀下手”

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛“这是个机会,大学应该建立文化平衡,应该拿亚裔最多的大学开刀下手”:
These positions arguably represent a missed opportunity. Universities have the potential of establishing real cultural change. It makes sense that the head of the Canadian university with perhaps the highest number of Asian students is the most candid and the most concerned. Indeed, Stephen Toope has, since his arrival in 2006 as UBC president, made the issue central to his agenda—including outreach and newspaper op-ed pieces touting the importance of making the university campus a meeting place not only of diversity but also of dialogue.

这个记者很会反话正说,表面赞同 Toope, 实际却说:”统计表明Toope是错的“ 又说,“大学有43%的亚裔,但人口仅仅占 21.5% ” 但不用同一年统计,可谓用心良苦:
Among Canadian universities, UBC is one of the few institutions that publishes the ethnic makeup of its student body. Toope says that the university’s Asian student population is not “widely out of whack with the community,” although the stats tell a slightly different story. According to a 2009 UBC report on direct undergraduate entrants, 43 per cent of its students self-identify as ethnically Chinese, Korean or Japanese, as compared to 38 per cent who self-identify as white. Although Vancouver is a richly diverse city, according to data from the 2006 census, just 21.5 per cent of its residents identify as a Chinese, Korean or Japanese visible minority.

还有第一页煽动:
The dilemma is this: Canadian institutions operate as pure meritocracies when it comes to admissions, and admirably so. Privately, however, many in the education community worry that universities risk becoming too skewed one way, changing campus life—a debate that’s been more or less out in the open in the U.S. for years but remains muted here. And that puts Canadian universities in a quandary. If they openly address the issue of race they expose themselves to criticisms that they are profiling and committing an injustice. If they don’t, Canada’s universities, far from the cultural mosaics they’re supposed to be,risk becoming places of many solitudes, deserts of non-communication

还有很多:例如, 为白人不能一统天下而担忧并煽动take them seriously:
The upshot is that race is defining Canadian university campuses in a way it did not 25 years ago. Diversity has enriched these schools, but it has also put them at risk of being increasingly fractured along ethnic lines. It’s a superficial form of multiculturalism that is expressed in the main through segregated, self-selecting, discrete communities. It would behoove the leadership of our universities to recognize these issues and take them seriously.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下茶话 / 社会 / Dudes, you are barking at the wrong tree! I don't know what the fuss you guys are making here. If it's about the article titled <'Too Asian'?>, then I'm afraid you didn't even finish the whole article. Did you only read the two words "Too Asian"
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛and didn't even see the question mark at the end?

    Both my wife and I read the article. Actually I just read the article today and found it interesting and forwarded it to my wife. She then forwarded it to her colleagues (yes, whites).

    We all think it's a great read, unbiased and at the same time raised the issues that should concern all us, Asians/Chinese and non-Asians as well. Actually, if you've read the subtitle, then you should get the essence of the article already.

    "Worries that efforts in the U.S. to limit enrollment of Asian students in top universities may migrate to Canada"

    Maclean's is worrying about the unfair limiting enrollment of Asian students practices to spread into Canada! Stopping this practice from entering Canada is actually good for our children! Otherwise, UofT, Waterloo & UBC won't be as "Asian" as now and a lot of our own children will be forced to go to 2nd tier or 3rd tier universities, if they get to go to universities at all.

    Stop barking at the wrong tree. Pick up a fight on Canadian universities who you believe have secretively applied the unfair admissions practices like the 10 elite U.S. universities.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • I'm afraid you didn't read any comments posted below the article.
      • Oh? Let me go read them. Can you give me a quick summary here?
        • Just randomly read some of them(out of 1012) in the first page.
          • Read some. Just like comments to any China related article, it's always heated. Same as comments to other non-China related issues. I really don't see why someone would be offended so badly. Maybe I'm still missing some points here.
            I saw jiacan (加灿) has pointed out Maclean's updated the subtitle too.

            Let me grab a hard-copy tomorrow and see what was the original like.
            • Read another article from TorontoStar published on the same day.
              • I don't find this article offending either. Yes, it might used some extreme cases, but most of the things described are the facts! I belong to the 85 per cent of Asian parents myself. We should feel proud rather than afraid or offended.
                These so-called "higher class" white parents are doing exactly the same thing as we skilled-worker Chinese immigrant parents do - piano class, soccer practice, and at the same time, high grades, and eventually entering the top universities' top majors.

                We really don't need to 草木皆兵 and read all articles with the word "China", "Chinese" and "Asian" in it as if it's discriminating or insulting. Okay, maybe this is just me thinking this way.

                At the end of the day, we all want our kids to excel and be happy when they become adults themselves.
                • +1. always see things objectively will help us in the long run.
    • 要有敏感性.小心以后华裔子女上大学受限制.
      • 有敏感性是对的,但是我觉得应该是针对大学招生办,而不是媒体报子。反而如果我没有读这篇文章,我还不会知道美国的常青藤有如此对亚裔学生的苛刻限制。现在读了这篇文章后我会尽我所能地去不让此等事件发生在加拿大大学里。(美国的我就管不着了。)
        • 种族歧视一直存在.
          • 这个社会里种族歧视是肯定存在的,只是多少的问题。作为可视少数民族,我们生活在当今加拿大社会里的是很幸福的了。至少我是这么认为的。很多事情都是个perception的问题,如果把什么东西都上纲上线,太敏感的话,那活着会很累的。
      • 估计以后要限制亚裔学生的入学率了.
    • I don't think so. we have the right to fight for this type of racial stereotype; as parents, we shoud do it for our children!!!!
      • Racial stereotype does not equal to racism! Ask yourself and your friends how you define Jane & Finch neighbourhood first. That's much worse than "Too Asian" universities!
        • 你去问问写文章的那位女士/ 报纸主编对这个地区的真实想法,他们敢不敢头版头条登出
          • Exactly, that's beyond racial stereotype! And everyone knows that, so it's not newspaper/magazine worthy!
            • and "too asian" is newspaper worthy? 你看了读者评论没?这种情况已经几十年啦,everyone knows about it.
              • But I don't believe this scenario has existed for 几十年啦 - “I once had a tutorial session for the whole class where the TA got frustrated with speaking English and started giving the answer in Mandarin. A lot of the class understood his answer.”
                Now, that's alarming, even to me.

                How would you like that if your child is in that class, but the TA is speaking Hindi (or Hebrew or Farsi or another non-official language of Canada) to the rest of the class?
                • 70年代为了相同的问题闹过一次啦,that's 30 years ago, 你自己去看看历史吧,CTV后来道歉了事。。
                  本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Prof. Henry Yu History Department, UBC

                  Henry Yu is a professor of History at the University of British of Columbia. He was born in Vancouver and graduated from UBC, the son of immigrants from China but also the fourth generation greatgrandson of Chinese migrants who came to B.C. in the 19th century.
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                  Thirty years after CTV aired its infamous W5 program insinuating that Canadian universities had too many “Asians,” Macleans magazine repeats the same error of using racial stereotyping to make a nonsensical argument.

                  Rather than dealing with the true issues of meritocracy, the role of universities in screening for the rewards of p...rofessional careers, and whether higher education means more than just a higher income later in life, Macleans obscures any insights it might make with racist profiling of “Asians” and “whites.”

                  Do the journalists and editors of Macleans and the Toronto Star not know the history of anti-Asian agitation in Canada and the United States?

                  The title “Too Asian” draws upon over a century of racist politics using the term “Asian” to flatten everyone who looks “Oriental” in the eyes of bigots into a single category which is somehow threatening to “white” Canadians. Have we not advanced enough over the last 30 years to recognize that people with black hair who do not look like their families came from Europe can still be “Canadian,” rather than the assumption that the writers make that they must be eternal foreigners and the opposite of “Canadian” and “born in Canada”?

                  Judging from the first 300 comments on Macleans’ online edition, amost every single one of which was more articulate and intelligent than the journalists in dismissing the article as being pointless and inflammatory, we hope that a younger generation of Canadians who have grown up in a much more engaged and diverse society than the Macleans newsroom see a future that no longer needs to rely on racist stereotypes and fear mongering. Perhaps that is the lesson of the silly article, that our young bloggers and non-journalists from a wide spectrum of backgrounds are more insightful than the segregated newsrooms of so many of our English and French language media print media, where nary a non-white face interrupts the fantasy world within which our reporters and editors continue their dialogues only with each other.

                  Each day in my classes I hear intelligent and humane dialogues between students of every colour and from everywhere around the world, something that makes UBC and other Canadian universities special places that seemingly have better sense than anyone in a position of responsibility at Macleans or the Toronto Star.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • if they dare to publish something like "the area is too black, hence high crime rate", then I have no problem they say the Universities are "too Asian". the truth is they think we are sheeps, and they can play you whatever way they want,
          • no, we are sheep, you are the wolf!
            • and you are the ironman, LOL
              • No, Iron Sheep! :-)
    • 这个记者很会反话正说,你被迷惑了。比如他说,“这是个机会,大学应该建立文化平衡,应该拿亚裔最多的大学开刀下手”
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛“这是个机会,大学应该建立文化平衡,应该拿亚裔最多的大学开刀下手”:
      These positions arguably represent a missed opportunity. Universities have the potential of establishing real cultural change. It makes sense that the head of the Canadian university with perhaps the highest number of Asian students is the most candid and the most concerned. Indeed, Stephen Toope has, since his arrival in 2006 as UBC president, made the issue central to his agenda—including outreach and newspaper op-ed pieces touting the importance of making the university campus a meeting place not only of diversity but also of dialogue.

      这个记者很会反话正说,表面赞同 Toope, 实际却说:”统计表明Toope是错的“ 又说,“大学有43%的亚裔,但人口仅仅占 21.5% ” 但不用同一年统计,可谓用心良苦:
      Among Canadian universities, UBC is one of the few institutions that publishes the ethnic makeup of its student body. Toope says that the university’s Asian student population is not “widely out of whack with the community,” although the stats tell a slightly different story. According to a 2009 UBC report on direct undergraduate entrants, 43 per cent of its students self-identify as ethnically Chinese, Korean or Japanese, as compared to 38 per cent who self-identify as white. Although Vancouver is a richly diverse city, according to data from the 2006 census, just 21.5 per cent of its residents identify as a Chinese, Korean or Japanese visible minority.

      还有第一页煽动:
      The dilemma is this: Canadian institutions operate as pure meritocracies when it comes to admissions, and admirably so. Privately, however, many in the education community worry that universities risk becoming too skewed one way, changing campus life—a debate that’s been more or less out in the open in the U.S. for years but remains muted here. And that puts Canadian universities in a quandary. If they openly address the issue of race they expose themselves to criticisms that they are pro&#64257;ling and committing an injustice. If they don’t, Canada’s universities, far from the cultural mosaics they’re supposed to be,risk becoming places of many solitudes, deserts of non-communication

      还有很多:例如, 为白人不能一统天下而担忧并煽动take them seriously:
      The upshot is that race is defining Canadian university campuses in a way it did not 25 years ago. Diversity has enriched these schools, but it has also put them at risk of being increasingly fractured along ethnic lines. It’s a superficial form of multiculturalism that is expressed in the main through segregated, self-selecting, discrete communities. It would behoove the leadership of our universities to recognize these issues and take them seriously.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 哥们儿太敏感了,这样活着会很累的,看谁都是阶级敌人,看谁都在歧视你。人家正说反说你都一口咬定是在歧视你,人家靠发报纸杂志文章为生,你这样总能听话外音,那人家只好不写一切于亚洲人中国人相关的主题,到时候你又会说主流媒体忽略亚洲人中国人。
        • +1
        • 因为看你把作者倾向意图完整看反了,我才有意夸张,以便你能看清。看到你的错误理解: “Maclean's is worrying about the unfair limiting enrollment of Asian students practices to spread into Canada! ” 想想你有代表性,否则我不没事发贴。
          • So, are you suggesting Maclean's is recommending to apply the unfair enrollment practices in our universities? If that's their intent, why would they be so stupid to publish this article?
            They'll just do it secretively without telling the world about it. Just like what the U.S. elite schools did.
    • +1 但美国顶尖大学的平衡政策我10年前就知道了。
      • Let's hope that practice doesn't migrate over north!
        • are you sure it is not here. I don't know. University must have some kind of rules....
    • 你读的是二版吧,人家都改了,找个原版看看先。最好再比较下人家改啦啥,为什么要改。
      • 今天找了几家店都没找到这期Maclean's,只有周一进城去再看了。再又,我觉得他们改是在考虑亚洲人民的感情,没想到亚洲人这么sensitive。I really don't have a problem with a little bit of stereotyping.
        • 我在学校上课,老师都不敢提CHINA CHINESE,代以亚洲统称。 我一开始没在意,后来想,是不是有过中国人很敏感的经验,让老师们领教了。 我个人觉得没必要这么敏感。
          • 不是,并不是中国人敏感,是加拿大是一个讲究政治正确的社会。意思就是,表面功夫一定要正确,台布下面多脏都没所谓。
            • Yes呀.
    • 很公平。亚裔不合入主流,只关心自己的小圈子利益,这个连白痴白人都看得出。好了,请各位教育自己孩子,以后竞选市长省长总理去。规则都不利用,算是白操了心了。THE VOICE IS NOTHING WITHOUT SOLID POWER.
    • 这篇文章是写给白人看的, 大伙要从白人的角度来理解,就得出作者的原意.试想一下如果你是一个白人,看了这篇文章, 是否感觉到白人的孩子被Asian(Chinese)学生侵占了上名牌大学的机会,而且情况已经非常严重必须有所行动.这就是作者的愿意.