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枫下茶话 / 社会 / 我看闹着签名公开信的那些人全是在扯淡,语气好像新花社,抗议一百遍,中国人民的感情还不是月月受伤害?其实只有三条可以说:1. The media has been saying for years that we need more engineers/professionals for the future knowledge based economy. The Chinese parents and their hard working children are meeting this challenge head-on. Shouldn't society thank them for their sacrifice instead of asking them to "slow down"?
2. The univiersities should do more to help different student groups to mingle.
3. Meritocracy is the corner stone of our educational values. US style admission quota have no place in Canada.
-stardust(voyageur);
2010-11-14
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-iron(swim, bike & run);
2010-11-14
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我早认为这事还得从正面处理,华社可组织帮助白人考大学的团队,跟星报联系一下,告诉他们我们华人也不好意思,但是种族平等是加拿大立国之本,我们愿意帮助白人一起竞争,传授我们的考大学经验。
-neversaid(重来不说);
2010-11-14
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LOL,我们也不好意思??? are you kidding me? we did something wrong? need to be 不好意思?
-calgarywolf(wolfwolf);
2010-11-15
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And to be clear, I am not against voicing concerns to MaClean's/Star. I am against mob-emailing the same simpleton template. It just shows how we are still used to that one voice propoganda, even when we protest.好像“开除作者/主编”,“正式道歉”这类诉求,自己过了嘴瘾,别人看了好笑。向谁道歉呀?
根本没有操作性。就像外焦部最近关于诺奖颁奖的威胁,除了赢得Bully 之名, 神马用也没有。
要求一篇更平衡的后续报道倒是可行一点,不过最重要的不是抗议Maclean, 而是长期的关心School Board 如何运作,大学录取标准有无变化。
-stardust(voyageur);
2010-11-14
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Thanks for your thoughtful points. CCNC is drafting a rebuttal, we are working on a dissection of their "Too Asian" article. It is work in progress. Stay tuned.
-drz(LogCabin);
2010-11-14
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Agree to your suggestions. However we have to voice out, and let them (including universities and government) know we are strongly against using different rules of admission to different people.
-ebusiness(宝宝,姐姐,爸爸,妈妈);
2010-11-15
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-iron(swim, bike & run);
2010-11-15
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从自己做起,现在就和主流人士多交涉,多在主流扎堆的地方发帖子
-coachcoach(表妹爱coach);
2010-11-14
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网上发贴吵架除了加深隔阂和矛盾以外,很难起到别的作用。作为家长,大家还是以身作则地多在现实生活中和(你所谓的)"主流人士"多交涉。要把自己当做"主流人士",而不仅仅把自己还当成"新移民"看。您的加拿大护照和其它所有加拿大护照的重量是一样的。
-iron(swim, bike & run);
2010-11-15
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Good points!
-calgarywolf(wolfwolf);
2010-11-15
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同意!
一哭二闹三上吊,没用。各人玩游戏都有自己的规则,去playgroud 看一看,当一个孩子王组织了一个游戏,玩的高兴时有一个新到的孩子想加入,这时候孩子王对这个新到的孩子能不能加入游戏起到决定性的作用。过一会新到的孩子游戏玩得比大家都好,孩子王就会想办法来改变玩游戏的规则来为难新到的孩子,这时候新到的孩子哭闹着说不公平,你说有没有用?
如果这时又有几个新孩子来了,其中有一个也想成孩子王,这几个新孩子组织了自己游戏而且玩得更开心,你玩你的,我玩我的.你不高兴?要么来玩我的游戏,要么就一边去,要么打一架。
-findsolution(FindSolution);
2010-11-15
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Your point is totally wrong and you don't undertsand LZ's post. Canada is a democratic country, and most of Canadian universities are PUBLIC, supported by taxpayers. The rule of admission should be equal to all applicants,no matter what color he/she is.
"Meritocracy is the corner stone of our educational values. US style admission quota have no place in Canada". That's the point.
-ebusiness(宝宝,姐姐,爸爸,妈妈);
2010-11-15
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dream?
-findsolution(FindSolution);
2010-11-15
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你如果有孩子在高中或大学,问问你的孩子,遇到冲突或不公平时,搞阶级斗斗争好呢还是搞阶级调和好?公平不是靠革命斗争得来的。
-findsolution(FindSolution);
2010-11-15
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你对斗争的理解是?调和呢?请问,你是不是打算让孩子找个白人配偶,好调和出不白不黄的孙子一辈?还有,如果没有斗争,白人为什么要和你调和?
-broadsky2010(南山石);
2010-11-15
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让孩子找什么样配偶,不是我要管的事,更不关你的事。再来一次文革,你是不是特别兴奋?
-findsolution(FindSolution);
2010-11-15
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你读点书,再来谈文革。阶级斗争就等于文革?种族斗争就是阶级斗争?斗争就是你死我活?
-broadsky2010(南山石);
2010-11-15
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你的口气就是文革的翻版,我读不读书与你有什么关系?
-findsolution(FindSolution);
2010-11-15
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白人没和你调和你能来这里吗?
-findsolution(FindSolution);
2010-11-15
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白人需要的是调和吗?白人和你们家调和了?怎么做的?
-broadsky2010(南山石);
2010-11-15
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你就象文革中的居委任会老太,每家的情况都要向你汇报?
-findsolution(FindSolution);
2010-11-15
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阶级调和 doesn't mean you allow those universities to setup some quota to limit the number of asian students. .They can add more requirements beyond marks to encourage high school students to develop their social skills, leadership, etc. But all the admission requirements should apply to all applicants, no matter what color they are.
-ebusiness(宝宝,姐姐,爸爸,妈妈);
2010-11-15
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费话,你以为白人学生没有Asian学生做的好学的好啊?知己知彼才能百战百胜,不要太高估自己了。
-findsolution(FindSolution);
2010-11-15
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"公平不是靠革命斗争得来的"?? 不一定要革命,可不靠斗争?你等着人家良心发现还是等着天上掉馅饼?
-rosadog(rosa);
2010-11-15
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